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PT Biz Mastermind Recap: Growth, AI, and Economic Uncertainty

The PT Biz Mastermind event in Atlanta was one for the books. With over 200 clinic owners from across the country, this event showcased massive growth in cash-based PT, the impact of AI in clinics, and how businesses should navigate economic uncertainty. Whether you were there in person or not, here’s a recap of the biggest takeaways from this incredible gathering of high-performing PT entrepreneurs.


1. Cash-Based PT Clinics Are Scaling Bigger Than Ever

When PTs first started cash-based clinics, many thought they would be small, lifestyle businesses. Fast forward to today, and we’re seeing clinics scaling into multi-location, million-dollar+ businesses with real exit strategies.

At the event, we discussed two main paths for PT entrepreneurs:

A. Autopilot Practices

Many clinic owners want to step back from the day-to-day while keeping their practice profitable. This model allows an owner to reduce patient care hours while reinvesting in staff through profit-sharing and leadership roles. It creates stability for the team while giving the owner time freedom—a key goal for many in the PT Biz community.

B. Exit Strategies & Selling Your Practice

For those looking for a big exit, cash-based clinics are now selling for 3-8X net profit. As these businesses become more systemized, investors are taking notice, and owners have the potential to sell for millions if structured correctly.

The big takeaway? The cash-based model isn’t just sustainable—it’s thriving. And as insurance reimbursement continues to decline, more in-network clinics are reaching out, looking to pivot to a cash-hybrid approach.


2. AI Is Here to Help PTs—Not Replace Them

One of the biggest topics at the event was AI in clinics. There’s a lot of fear around AI replacing jobs, but for physical therapy, AI is a tool—not a replacement.

AI is being used to:
โœ” Eliminate redundant admin tasks (like documentation)
โœ” Improve efficiency in scheduling, marketing, and patient tracking
โœ” Enhance clinical decision-making with better data insights

One major announcement was Clare AI—a PT-specific documentation tool that reduces 80% of documentation time. If you hate writing notes, this will be a game-changer. Check it out at meetclaire.ai and try 10 free notes to see the difference.

The Big Takeaway?

AI isn’t replacing physical therapists—but PTs who leverage AI will outperform those who don’t. Instead of wasting hours on mundane tasks, AI allows you to focus on patient care, business growth, and work-life balance.


3. Economic Uncertainty Is Real—Here’s How to Stay Ahead

There was a clear sense of caution among clinic owners about the economic shifts happening in 2025. Inflation, job uncertainty, and market fluctuations are causing patients to rethink spending—which means business owners need to adapt.

What Can You Do?

๐Ÿ”น Track patient trends—Are people hesitant to buy? Adjust your offers.
๐Ÿ”น Increase retention—Keeping existing patients is easier than finding new ones.
๐Ÿ”น Build a buffer—Have cash reserves to handle slow months.
๐Ÿ”น Focus on high-value services—Patients will still invest in what they value.

Having a strong business community is one of the best ways to navigate uncertain times. At PT Biz, we help clinic owners stay ahead of trends by consolidating real-time data from hundreds of clinics, so you don’t have to figure it all out alone.


4. The Power of In-Person Connection

In a world that’s increasingly virtual, the biggest takeaway from this event was the importance of real-life connection.

The energy of being in a room with like-minded entrepreneurs is irreplaceable. Clinic owners left with:
โœ” New strategies to grow their business
โœ” Stronger relationships with fellow PTs
โœ” A renewed sense of purpose & motivation

As an entrepreneur, it’s easy to feel isolated—especially when most people around you don’t understand what you’re building. That’s why surrounding yourself with a community of high-performing PTs is one of the best investments you can make.


Final Thoughts

This event proved that cash-based PT is only getting stronger, AI is making clinics more efficient, and having the right community makes all the difference in navigating uncertainty.

If you’re serious about scaling your business, don’t do it alone. Take the first step by:

โœ… Checking out our free resources at PhysicalTherapyBiz.com
โœ… Trying Clare AI for free at MeetClaire.ai
โœ… Booking a Free Business Audit Call: Schedule Here

If you want faster growth, more time freedom, and a community of high-level PTs, let’s chat.

See you at the next event! ๐Ÿš€

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Podcast Transcript

Danny: 

โ€ŠHey, real quick, if you were serious about starting or growing your cash based practice, I want to formally invite you to go to Facebook and join our PT entrepreneurs Facebook group. This is a group of over 6, 000 providers all over the country, and it's a pretty amazing place to start to get involved in the conversation.

Hope to see you there soon. Hey, are you a physical therapist looking to leverage your skillset in a way that helps you create time and financial freedom for yourself and your family? If so, you're in the right spot. My name is Danny Matei. And over the last 15 years, I've done pretty much everything you can in the profession.

I've been a staff PT. I've been an active duty military officer, physical therapist. I've started my own cash practice. I've sold that cash practice. And today my company physical therapy business helped over a thousand clinicians start growing scale their own cash practices So if this sounds like something you want to do listen up because i'm here to help you What's going on?

Dr. Danny here with the pg entrepreneur podcast and today man today I get to summarize What I think was my favorite event that we've ever done with our PT Biz Mastermind group. This is something that we do twice a year and we recently just got to do it here in Atlanta. So we were at Truist Park, which is where the Braves play a hotel right there.

It's a great location. It's just, it's a fun spot. You can walk to a lot of things and it's a it's a nice area, but the best part is the people, and bringing together a little over 200. Clinic owners from all across the country from as far away as Alaska. It's it's awesome that we get people that will, they will come from all over the country to come together, to learn together to be around each other, to inspire each other for, for two days.

And these are events that we just do with our clients. These aren't like. It's not a conference that anybody can come to. These are people we work with on an ongoing basis to help them, really grow their businesses. And I learned some stuff this year that I want to share because if you couldn't be there, if you couldn't be in the room I want to share some things that I think will help you and your business during this podcast that I took away from the couple days that I spent with all of these business owners, which I'm very fortunate to be able to do.

And, and I will say every time that I come back from these events, I feel almost I don't know, it's I don't even know how we even got to this point. I'm not sure how we got to the point where we are, we have the privilege of helping. Just such fantastic people, fantastic, just human beings, frankly, like we have some of the not just greatest, not they're great business owners.

Don't get me wrong. These people are killers. They're competitive. They want to grow their businesses, but they're just frankly great people. And it's so refreshing and fun and just like, enjoyable to be around such great people for a couple of days. And I know that. What is cool is I know they feel the same way about each other about the environment because it's just rare to be around people that are Have the same background as you have the same profession as you have the same business that you have the same foundational beliefs, you know in health and wellness and how you can work how you should work with people and To be able to get them together for a couple days.

It's pretty special thing. So Let me start with this. The first part of the event for us is actually working with some of the bigger businesses that we have going over more, detailed things and this is a smaller group of business owners. So roughly 40 or so that we were working with the day before the event technically kicked off.

And. I had a chance to go over exit strategies for these clinics. And what's interesting is these businesses are becoming more mature, bigger. They're becoming businesses that investors are looking to buy. We have a handful of examples of cash practices, even in the last, uh, 12 months that have sold that we've had some parts to do with that.

And that's pretty cool thing to see. Because honestly, when I started my business, I didn't think we'd be able to sell it. I actually didn't even know you could sell a business when I started my business. You can. And I was able to sell my practice. We've helped a number of people do the same thing.

And it's definitely not something I thought was in the cards. I just thought I would see patients and that would be income. That would create income. But a lot of these businesses are growing to the point where they are. They're able to go through a couple of different exit options.

And this is relatively new, I would say for these businesses to be mature enough to be able to have options. So some of these business owners, they wanted to keep their practice. Become less involved, almost like partially retire. And we call those autopilot practices. I would say this is actually the most popular variation of a clinic that somebody wants to wants to start.

And you can think about it as let's say it's a clinic that does a million dollars a year in gross revenue. And let's say they have, with them working in the business, let's say they're. They're generating, I don't know, 300, 000 in net profit in some capacity between their work, owner's compensation and then true net profit.

But they're building the clinic in a way where they are taking less of that revenue and spreading it across the business and key employees in particular in order to be able to take a step back. So maybe, a hundred thousand of that goes towards, Profit sharing and the clinic employees to be able to, increase their compensation and the owner is able to step back and maybe not be as involved in running the day to day.

And maybe focus on other things or just, not necessarily have to kill himself, to run their business forever, which is a it's hard thing to do, a lot of business owners tap out around five years, it's just too much for them. So creating longevity, creating a more time freedom.

That's something that's very popular and a lot of people are wanting to do. And what we're seeing happen in a lot of these clinics as people are getting big enough, like getting enough net profit to be able to actually incentivize, staff effectively and giving staff an opportunity to make more and more income.

So that's one the other one would be a straight up exit, right? So small exits. We're seeing small exits happen for somewhere between three and five times like net profit. So imagine, let's say you, for simple math purposes, let's say you have a hundred thousand dollars in profit, you're talking about something that could sell between three and 500, 000.

But if that number goes up, let's say you have something that has a million dollars in profit. Now all of a sudden, like not only can you sell it for. A higher multiple, it depends on a lot of factors, but let's just say instead of being a three to five, maybe it's a five to an eight, right?

So that 1 million net profit now all of a sudden is worth five to 8 might pay for the business. And there's a big contingency of people that we work with. That's the goals. They want to have that big exit. They want to create. A capital event that, that creates massive stability in their life for a long period of time.

And and that's a cool goal to have too. There but it's forcing business owners to be more sophisticated, to learn more about systemizing things and sales processes and finance and all of these things that you would think, especially starting out a decade ago with starting a business like this, we were just trying to, we were just trying to offset our income working at a clinic, right?

This is a whole different ballgame and it's really cool because these clinics are, they're able to be scaled much more than I would have thought. Now we've had 29 seven figure business owners that, we've had come through mastermind are currently in the PT biz mastermind that the vast majority of them were well below that when they started.

And these primarily are a cash based clinics, cash. And some of them are hybrid clinics, but vast majority of even the hybrid clinics are still like very cash dominant. These are clinics that are growing. They're doing things differently than the profession.

Maybe told us that we could do and I had a coach tell me something interesting he said it's better to be a pirate than join the Navy and I thought that was awesome Because he said we're a bunch of pirates, Like we could do the traditional route and join the Navy just do what everybody else has been doing and you know Starting a network clinic do high volume all this stuff, whatever, but we decided to become Pirates, man.

And and do things differently and, carve our own path. And it's worked out. And ironically, it's worked out so well that now like we have tons of in network practices that are reaching out to us because they're struggling and they don't know what to do because their profit margins are going down.

And in order for them to stay profitable, they almost have to add cash services or they have to get really big and, maybe they can throw their weight a bit. Around a bit more with contracts or a hospital contract or sell to, like a bigger group or something. But I, the way that we started was based off of how we felt people should be worked with, how we wanted to work with people without being massive volume.

And it turns out that maybe. This was just the right way to go about things anyway. And insurance has gotten worse and worse that it's basically put these businesses in a better position which is interesting. And it's interesting to think what will happen over the next 10 years as things trend, different directions in healthcare.

But the exit strategies are happening. People have options. These are bigger, more robust businesses, and it's really cool to see. The second thing is the theme I would say, and what I presented on. Was AI in clinics. So what is AI? How's it being leveraged in clinics? This is something that we're leaning into a lot more at PT biz, even to the point where we actually the last six months we've been developing and training an AI documentation tool called Claire.

If you want to check it out, go to meet Claire, C A C L A I R E. ai. So meet Claire. ai. This is a tool that we worked on with a a technical co founder that we've partnered with to, to build a rehab specific tool. And a lot of this has to do with the fact that AI is going to not replace us, but enable us to focus more on the humans in front of us.

And I'll say that again, because I think this is actually a really important distinction to understand about this profession and how. Many other professions are not going to fall into this category. So AI is not going to replace physical therapy, but is going to enable physical therapy to replace mundane tasks and focus on the human in front of you.

So I'm sure everyone listening to this loves writing their notes, right? They love telling their staff to. Write their notes, right? To remind them to write their notes. Of course, nobody likes to do that. It's like the worst part of the job. And even in a cash clinic, we still have to write notes, but with something like our our documentation tool, Claire, it replaces, it, it removes roughly 80 percent of the documentation process for most of the clinicians that, that we use for training, testing, and even now Our mastermind has access to to this tool as well.

And it's just really cool to see Holy crap. It used to take me 30 minutes post eval to do X, Y, and Z. And as far as documentation is concerned, and all of a sudden it's a couple of clicks and you're pretty much done. And you get that time back to go, home earlier. You get that time back to spend time with your family, get time that back to go work out.

You get time back to eat your freaking lunch. And not have to write notes. Like I can't tell you the last time that I was seeing patients where I actually ate my lunch and didn't eat notes or ate my lunch and didn't write notes. It's just goes hand in hand. And lunch is a nice time to just not do work and maybe eat.

And let it digest or talk to a coworker about something. And I feel like we need to get our lunch breaks back. For us, this is something we've been working really hard on and we're excited to really be able to remove some of these mundane tasks. And you see it in all kinds of different things, whether it's helping use chat, CBT for how to respond to emails or to write, local marketing, a copy or to help plan out your social media posts and things that you're going to do or to look up research for your con ed internally for your clinic to make sure everybody's staying up on research Like there's so many ways in which we can leverage Ai to enable us and make us More efficient and allow us to focus more on our patients and that's awesome because in some professions Ai is going to replace them.

Okay not enable them But replace them and that is a real thing that's happening, especially in bigger companies right now and our what's nice about our profession is it's very insulated from true tech disruption the way that if you were a coder or if you were in, finance and maybe accounting or something like that.

I think that's where it becomes really challenging to say yeah, I can't replace me. I don't know. I can replace accounting pretty easily. I can replace a low level coder very easily. And if that was me and I was in that career field, I'd be like pretty concerned. I would be really scrambling to be the best person at my company because.

I think low performers are going to get replaced, which in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's a bad thing, but if you look at our profession, we're going to benefit so much from mundane tasks, being able to be removed and for us to be able to be more accurate with how we're diagnosing people, leveraging artificial intelligence through physical technology.

And applications that we can use to assess movement better and to help better write ongoing treatment plans and things like that. There's so many cool things that we're going to be able to do that. It's very exciting to think about how we can be tech enabled, but and really focus on the important work, which is the people in front of us and doing things like using our hands.

They can't be disrupted very easily at all. So stuff like our Claire tool is just going to be so cool to watch people be able to reclaim time back with things that they. Really don't want to do. And we know that. So if you're interested, head there, you get 10 free notes, if you want to check it out, like to see how it works, see if if it's, something that helps with your workflow and start using some AI to offset some of these things.

The. Third thing is there's a sense of economic uncertainty. So I had a lot of conversations with people just, in general while I'm there, there's hundreds of people there. And I try to do my best to talk to as many people as I can. Some people I know. More than others and some of them I know like where they're types of clinic that that they had location in the niche area they're in.

And and definitely what I noticed was there seemed to be a. Just this uncertainty with some clinic owners, and I would say it was a big chunk of them. I wouldn't just say some. People are a bit concerned with just economic factors and changes that are occurring this year. And when you look at what's driving a lot of this, it really comes down to the Economic changes that are happening with the current administration and for better or worse the administration that we have is You know, it is we're is moving very quickly on Economic initiatives in particular and It's obviously like some of these things, like for instance, do I think the government's too bloated for sure?

Do you know, do I think that we need to reduce jobs there because we have a massive debt and national deficit? Yes. Do I think we should just blanket fire everybody? That's on probationary status in the VA. No, I don't and I'm somebody that goes to the VA Okay, I have plenty of problems But there's definitely there's certain things that I think that we're just rushing right now, and I'm not sure why Hey, sorry to interrupt the podcast.

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So if you would do that, I would greatly appreciate it. Now back to the podcast. And then you throw in things like, tariffs that are, we're unsure of how that's going to work out. The market volatility that we're seeing, the S and P 500 is down. I think as we recording this right now, it's down like 9 percent this year, which is considered a pretty massive dip.

And I don't say this because I'm not necessarily saying this in regards to my stance on what people should or shouldn't do. What I'm saying is. People that you work with are affected by this, meaning patience. I heard many stories of people that were concerned about their patients or their patients, significant other having lost their job or being worried about losing their job.

And because of that, not buying another package, right? Like the trickle down to small businesses like ours is very, it may not directly affect you. You may say, okay I'm not going to lose my job because I'm not employed by the government. True. What if you live in an area where there's a lot of government jobs that's going to affect a, a portion of the population that you work with, period.

And some people it has no effect on and then others it does. But that also perpetuates into every other small business. People are less likely to go into a restaurant. People are less likely to, buy, something that maybe they would put discretionary funds towards. It's just people they retract in times of unknown and uncertainty.

And that's exactly what's happening right now. And all you have to do is just look and see at the market response, because the market will tell you if there's uncertainty, there's no there's no change necessarily. This happened to our economy in the last couple of months. Zero. There's nothing fundamentally that's changed.

So why is there a 10 percent drop in a massive stock market index? Because people are scared. So they're selling, they're removing money, they're moving to cash. This is the secondary response to that, right? And you have to understand that this affects your small business too. And people at the event, I could definitely tell.

We're a bit more cautious about what they were going to do with their business, the progress they were, we're going to make or not make, or whether they were going to try to stabilize their business a bit more or not. And, I will say this, the, one of the greatest values. Of what we do is that we can consolidate information in very quickly between hundreds of businesses all across the country and share the best strategies to make it through any sort of environment.

And I'll tell you where I noticed this first time, because this is not as. As much, there's not as much uncertainty nearly as much as a COVID pandemic. And me running a business and working with, at the time, we were working with probably 70 businesses in PT biz what was so helpful.

At the time even with my own business Was knowing what was happening in real time and all these other businesses What people were doing what was working what's not working, best ways to pivot and We didn't have a single clinic that went out of business in fact all of our clinics grew during that time because of this unfair advantage they had from from information and That's what's so nice about These people coming together is not only do they get to be around each other, but they get to share what's working real time.

And we get to synthesize that and share that with everybody as well. So that they can make the best decisions. Because imagine if you're there, you're sitting there by yourself. Imagine you're in a city where you have a. Ton of government jobs and you have your practice. I would be if I was just by myself.

That would be very scary I would be scared. I wouldn't know what I should do what I should not do, pricing that's working marketing strategies that are working like how to structure things effectively. What kind of loan programs are there if there's you know a long period of time where things are sketchy like Getting through those by yourself is very hard versus if you have this like compliant, combined group of people that have the same businesses that are openly sharing best practices and information in real time.

It's like, how are you going to beat that? Like, how can you compete with that? It's just impossible if you're just in isolation trying to figure it out by yourself. And, obviously a shameless plug. If you're trying to figure this out on your own in the next 12 months, I think you're going to have a.

You're going to have a harder time than you think, because I don't think this is going anywhere. I think we're going to start to, I think we're going to see a bit of economic, um, economic challenge, potentially recession. And I'm not it's so hard to say like what exactly is going to happen, but things are pointing to the fact that this is probably going to be not the most comfortable economy for a period of time.

As things are changing and they're trying to implement new strategies, right? And again, for better or worse, that's going to affect your small business for a period of time. And that is the backlash that everyone's going to feel. No one's going to be immune to that. Cause you own a business and people are starting to make different buying decisions with their money.

That's going to affect anybody that gets paid for something that they do. And that's basically all businesses. But if you're trying to figure it out. All on your own, totally recommend taking a look at, what it looks like to be a part of what we're doing and having a conversation with one of our advisors because there's strength in numbers, period, like straight up.

And if you want to try to go at it on your own, you don't get a, you don't get like some extra badge because you made it harder on yourself. It just doesn't work that way. Like you get. Shingles and potentially going out of business like it's just not worth it. So there's been a couple of times where I would say it's been, it's felt different.

And this is definitely one of them, not to scare anybody, but I definitely felt people were just there was uncertainty just as much as I've felt in other periods of time when we've had some serious economic things We've had to deal with so You know, that's just where we're at right now and it'll get better.

It always does right? We have these whacks and wanes between great economic outlook and negative things and it's just one of those things that the power of The number of people that we work with is there's a lot of security in that and that's really cool to be a part of the last thing I would say is in real life experiences are so important and You work in person with your staff like every day, right?

And I mean you're face to face with patients for most parts. Maybe might be running a remote practice But like that face to face interaction with people is So important and we get less and less of it now than we used to we're more connected digitally and less connected physically Than we ever have been and there's pros and cons to all that by the way I mean there's for me to be able to FaceTime my parents and interact with them and high definition on my phone or whatever and just you know, that is just Insane that we can do that.

It's awesome. But at the same time, it's like we're more digitally connected and there's not, it's not the same thing as being next to someone, somebody else, it's not the same thing as sitting down and looking at somebody, face to face or grabbing a beer with somebody, at an event like this and just chatting about life and getting in it, not just like business stuff, but just like for people to connect with other, People on a human level is just really it's just really cool, and lots of stuff revolves around the business, lots of stuff. Obviously our goal there is to help people become better business owners, to enable them with information and skills and organization so that they can go forward and they can implement what they want to do in their business and grow it, and and have success there.

But it's still human beings. That, that are living life and they're experiencing good and bad things. Like we had one of the the folks that we work with, who's worked with us for a long time, the, our event first day was on Thursday and we do small group work on Fridays and Thursday night he found his grandfather died.

And, it's just like him sharing that with his small group. It's just, it is a, I'm glad that he was there to do that and glad that he was able to talk about that because, if for a lot of people, they probably would have held that in not say anything, but for them to feel comfortable enough to talk to each other about stuff like that, real life things that are going on, like that's such a healthy.

Group of people to be around and it was really it's just really great for me to see that's the way that people treat each other and and can help people through difficult times that are they're just it's part of life, And that's the thing like We do life with other people that we choose to do life with.

And you get a chance to choose who those folks are. You get a chance to decide who you spend time with. And I can tell you this. I never, ever thought that what we do at PT biz would be anything more than business. In fact, we leaned to, we shied away from it for a long time. It's not, I'm not a, I'm not a big talk about your feelings guy.

It's not how I grew up. It's not, that's just not my default. And over the years I've realized, holy shit, it's all connected. It's all connected. You try to run a business and you realize very quickly that it's just. It's just a trick. It tricked you into personal development, whether you knew or not the promise of work for yourself and make more money than working somewhere else is a trick to force you into personal development.

That's it. They go hand in hand and it's, it is it is a interesting thing when you really lean into that and you have a group of people around you that are willing to do the same thing because like the world, it's just, it is. It's better when you have, as my friend calls it, post ego people around you.

You have people around you that aren't letting their ego get in the way. They're not making decisions based on fear of what someone else thinks of them or doesn't think of them. They're just being themselves and they're trying to do what they think is important in life. And that is a rare place to be.

A rare place to be an amazing thing to watch firsthand. In a group that frankly, I just thought we'd be talking about business with people for a year and they would move on. Like it was some sort of, condensed MBA program for practices. And that's not what it's turned into.

It's turned into a community of people that are look forward to seeing each other a couple of times a year that have been in each other's weddings, that travel together that reach out to each other when something's good or bad, it's just awesome to see and it's just so amazing to be a part of and the in person side of things I think is the most valuable thing that we do actually That's I gave it a lot of thought i'm like man I've spent all this time Putting all this content together and researching things and developing content and sharing things that we think are going to be super impactful for their businesses and at the end of the day Just getting them together is the most valuable thing that, that we can do.

Just get, if we just got them together in a room and we just, all we did was cycle talking points that they had to talk about with a small group for 10 minutes at a time. We did that for two days and let them hang out for like dinner together. Oh my God, they probably still have an awesome time.

And it would be way less stressful for us to put that on. But but that's because it's the right people, it's the people in the room. And I encourage you to find a group of people that are trying to live the same kind of life that you are. And as an entrepreneur, that's tough sometimes because it's really hard to Connect with people that maybe they don't really see the world the way you do, right?

They don't maybe they're not as ambitious. They don't want to take a risk on themselves They think what you're doing is crazy and that's more people than then the entrepreneurs that exist out there Like we're a minority and then all of a sudden you get into a room and everybody is like Optimistic, positive, and they're excited for you.

And you can openly talk about revenue and stuff and there's context and they understand what you're talking about. They understand your struggles. It's just so beneficial and helpful for this crazy, difficult endurance race that we've signed up for and trying to grow a business. And I hope you find a group.

That is supportive and that understands, the mind and the world and the life of an entrepreneur like yourself, because that it's lonely to go at it by yourself, period. And for me, the in person side of things is just. It's so fun. It's so fun, and it just feels for me, I just, I'm just, this, just like everybody else, just part of this this group has grown organically, and it's a really unique, cool, fascinating thing to be a part of and watch, almost like it's its own thing now.

It's like formed into what it is on its own over time. It's really awesome. So I don't even know if that makes sense to anybody. If you were there, I think you know what I'm talking about. And if you weren't there, maybe I completely lost you there for the last few minutes. I'm not sure, but either way, I am very.

I'm very thankful. I'm very honored and I'm very fortunate in a lot of ways to be able to spend time with these wonderful people and, do it in person face to face, not on a zoom call. I really appreciate that. So that's it. In summary these businesses are bigger, more sophisticated than we ever thought that they would be.

They have the opportunity to be run autonomously. To create a passive revenue stream, they had the opportunity to be able to be exited and create a windfall of money for yourself and your family in a way that we never thought was possible. AI's here ain't going anywhere. It's not going to replace PT, but it will enable us to remove mundane tasks like documentation.

Remember, check out me, Claire. So if you want to check out what I'm talking about in real time and how you can get your documentation time cut down dramatically, thanks AI. No one liked it in the first place. As well as many other administrative redundant tasks and and things that are going to help you be a better business owner.

It's a real thing. Get tech enabled. Don't shy away from it. Economic uncertainty, it's happening. People are. Unsure of exactly what to do, what not to do. And and to be able to work through that with a group of people is something that, is much less stressful than trying to figure out on your own last thing, the power of in person events in person time in, in real life.

Is just so powerful make sure that you're getting around the right group of people in person Like you can't that energy of somebody else You cannot feel that shit through Zoom, you can't feel it through the phone You can feel it in person and that is something that is Very needed. Very neat. It's like recharging your battery, getting around the right people and entrepreneurship will drain your battery.

It'll drain your battery fast. So make sure you get around the right group of people. And if our group of people sounds like the right group of people to you, head to physical therapy, biz. com. Jump on a discovery call with our staff. We'll have a discussion with you, take you through a business audit that we do that's incredibly valuable, show you the holes in your business.

And if it makes sense for us to help you, fix those and get you in the right place faster than you can do on your own, then cool, we can have a discussion about that. And if not, then awesome. You're going to have a lot of clarity about what you need to work on your business either way.

So head to physicaltherapybiz. com, take a look at it. And as always, thank you so much for listening. And we'll catch you next time.

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